To be born a female, year 1966, firehorse

[sandstorm333]

I dont wont to write to much about me exept that Im alive and I shouldnt be. It seems to be a very dangerous year for a female to have been born in and Im trying to understand why. What would be the shamans understanding of Firehorse?

[Moonshadow]

{{Sandstorm333}}

 

I personally don't know what Firehorse is, but I can see that you are alive because you want to be. I hope you're enjoying the ride

 

Welcome to the cave.

 

 

Mandy

[silenceseeker]

Hi Sandstorm,

 

Like Mandy, I don't know much about the Firehorse but I think you are referring to this? http://www.tofugu.com/2012/04/11/the-curse-of-the-fire-horse-japans-ultimate-form-of-contraception/

 

One of the reasons that we don't know about it is that here we focus on energy directly, so we look at energy below the level of where a Firehorse is formed but that does not mean that it doesn't exist or have impact. My response would be that 'it's complicated.' There are earth cycles, cultural agreements, elemental energies and even geographically specific energy patterns that could influence the development of children and even more so girls within those cycles. I don't believe that they come into this world this way though (although possible on some levels), it's what affects their energy as they develop that would most likely create this pattern.

 

Lorrie

[sandstorm333]

In Japan and china parents avoided given birth to children born the year of 1966. The fear was especially for having a girl. This was taken so seriously that basically non or only a few children where born that year in Japan. i dont know about China. Girls women born that year where regarded as very unlucky and where feared. I did not take it seriously when I first was told, im not so sure any more. Other women who I met born the same year have far to many similar stories and happenings for it to be coinsidence any more. it is what it is. But I have a lot of respect for shaman thinking and would like to hear more from that direction and not just the asian mindset.

[silenceseeker]

Specific years or dates mean very little to shamans energetically because they are artificial constructs as is the linear nature of time. There are earth cycles that occur over decades that could affect human energy on that level globally. But it's most likely the power of cultural agreement in a certain belief that then creates it as reality. So it may have started as the result of an earth cycle or combination of other natural cycles that people noticed and then fed with their fear in an attempt to have control over it.

 

Lorrie

[ralph]

In my opinion, a superstitious behavior that stigmatises people according to their gender and year of birth isn't going to meet a lot of consideration by shamans.

[sandstorm333]

But isnt being a shaman the ability to consider everything. With an open mind. I must have got it all wrong.

[Michelle]

sandstorm, being a shaman is about learning to read the energy patterns underneath things. What you are talking about here is something humans have constructed (calendar and clock to artificially control time and superstition to explain fears). Shamans don't look at the superstition, they look at the energy that might be underneath.

 

If you have enough people in one place, believe in the same thing, then their combined energy can create an energetic pattern we perceive as karma or fate. That doesn't mean it is real and doesn't mean it is made up, just that it is not something naturally created in nature, but does exist now in an energy form. And because it has been collectively created by humans, each human can be affected by it if they buy into the belief or they can choose not to be affected by it.

 

Now at this point, you could say 'but my whole life has proved it is true' and to that I would say, that is so because your whole life you just took on the belief it was true. When we tend to believe something strongly enough, we find it often happens that way, because of the amount of energy we put into believing it. Now you are being confronted with a possible new belief. You can choose to accept what everyone has told you or you can choose not to accept.

 

And before you make your decision ask yourself this, why is it in countries that do not have this belief, that the females born in 1966 have been fine? Some have had crap lives, some have had OK lives and some have had awesome lives. For a belief like this to be True it would have to be universally true and this one is not.

 

 

My personal belief - I do not speak for any other shamans here - is that time does not exist. Humans created what a way to artificially mark moments in the day so they could plan ahead and control their lives. It makes getting about in the physical world a lot easier. It means you know when you are expected to be at a place and the person you are meeting will also be there. However, this to me is all artificial. The truth is there is no time, but there are cycles and we do see change. When you connect with the non physical or spiritual realms that's where you realise how artificial 'time' is. We look for energy patterns to see what has been, what is and what is coming. We look for changes in energy patterns to see if something is out of balance and also to help us redress that balance.

 

I would like to ask you a question. When you say "But isn't being a shaman the ability to consider everything. With an open mind." What are you really asking? Being a shaman isn't about considering every human belief with an open mind, because human beliefs often come out of their own minds based on their fears or doubts. Shamans are often curious and question everything with an open mind, but that isn't considering.

 

I guess the real question here is how much do you need or want to cling to this belief that you are somehow cursed because of an arbitrary date? How much has that belief shaped your life, simply because you did believe it then set up expectations based on it? What would your life be like now if you have of been told it was an extremely fortunate year to be born in?

 

Just to list a few firehorse women:

Louisa May Allcott, Ella Fitzgerald, Aretha Franklin, Sandra Day O'Connor, Barbara Streisand, Cindy Crawford Cynthia Nixon, Oprah Winfrey, Emma Watson, Katie Holmes, Kristen Stewart.